9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Loose Change 2nd Edition
Apr. 10, 2006 by JJ
I can’t figure it out. Someone made a feature length documentary covering dozens of alternative hypotheses about the events of September 11, 2001, and the movie’s not even listed on IMDB. Maybe there’s some kind of conspiracy against the filmmakers.
The movie is Loose Change 2nd Edition. You can watch it on Google Video. Among other theories, the film suggests:
- Commercial jets didn’t hit the twin towers. Unmanned US military planes did.
- The towers didn’t fall because of the planes. They fell because of carefully placed demolition charges.
- A plane did not hit the Pentagon. A US cruise missle did.
- Flight 93 didn’t crash in Pennsylvania. It landed safely in Cleveland.
- The cell phone calls from scared passengers were faked.
Believe me, I’m not saying I buy into all of this (or any of it). I don’t typically buy into conspiracy theories anyway, and I won’t accept any of the film’s ideas without further investigation. But it is incredibly interesting and I do hope the case isn’t offically closed regarding September eleventh. In 20, 50, or 100 years, what will the history books say about 9/11? Will the current government endorsed answers continue to be accepted? Will someone investigate the hypotheses brought up in this film? Will any or all of these theories prove to be true?
April 10th, 2006
Was someone high on crack when they made this film?! Damn, I hope you don’t buy into that shite!
April 10th, 2006
I always check movies at wikipedia lately. I don’t really like Imdb anymore.
As for the conspiracy, I liked reading this (several interesting links in the metafilter.com article)
April 10th, 2006
Nunya:
And I hope you don’t buy into the government’s official explanation just because it’s coming from the government. I think some of the points made in this film should be investigated. I definitely will not say I believe these theories until I see further proof (ie. actual videos of the Pentagon attack which exist but have not been declassified aside from 5 gifs).
Madbull:
Thanks for the link. One of the commenters there said it best:
“I’m not in the ‘a missile hit the Pentagon’ camp, I would not even put myself in a ‘conspiracy’ camp, but I am squarely in the ’something is amiss and they are not telling us everything’ camp.”
April 10th, 2006
JJ, remember Jim Walter Corp. from Tampa? Jim Walter’s kid is spending his inherited fortune to promote that documentary and this theory. W had him on the show. He seems to be the “Arthur” (Dudley Moore) of the family, if you catch my drift.
Drive through the park, JJ. I love the park.
April 10th, 2006
Marc:
Sometimes I just think funny things.
April 10th, 2006
While I don’t agree with the “something else other than a plane” theory, I do agree that we aren’t being told everything.
But until W is gone, I don’t think we can even start to find out what is going on.
April 10th, 2006
I don’t buy it, then again I’m sure people didn’t buy Watergate when it happened.
April 10th, 2006
Ron:
I just hope that when the next administration takes office, they don’t continue to let the details remain swept under the rug. At the very least, I’m simply curious to learn the”facts” that are currently classified.
Ev:
Good point. Here’s another one: Are there people out there who still believe Kennedy was shot by a lone gunman on the grassy knoll?
April 10th, 2006
Mcmanis always said: Oswald was a fag.
April 10th, 2006
[...] Thanks JJ for the inspiration. [...]
April 10th, 2006
I think “landed safely in Cleveland” is an oxymoron.
April 10th, 2006
I was extremely skeptical before seeing the movie, and it certainly gave me pause. The Reichstag Fire analogy is looking more and more fitting. I blogged about this flick a while ago, and I’m glad more people are getting to see it.
That’s hysterical, Soviet. Stupid Cleveland.
April 10th, 2006
I don’t buy the “official story”, I buy the photographs of the lawn @ the pentagon… shards of plane wreckage near the crash site. Photographs from the rooftops of nearby buildings near ground zero showing strips of feuselage with passenger windows and curtains. Photos of the huge scar in the ground, scattered with scredded plane parts in PA.
If this was all an “unmanned” conspiracy, they had to silence a TON of people to do so, and that… is impossible.
April 10th, 2006
MadBull:
Pingbacks rule!
Soviet:
Yes. Brad’s right. Your comment literally had me laughing out loud.
Brad:
Yeah, that’s what I was hoping. I don’t care if people change their mind about what happened. I know I’m not convinced wither way. I’m just glad someone’s bringing attention to these inconsistencies.
James:
Hey, I’m with you here. I don’t buy into theories. If I see something happen and someone tells me it didn’t happen, then obviously that’s bullshit. But I think this movie brought up a lot of great points, many of which have never been addressed publicly by the 9/11 Commission.
April 10th, 2006
sheesh, the time it takes to get this thing to stream..
i’m with you. whether or not it was Osama, W is hiding something.
Let’s see what Oliver Stone has to say about it..
April 10th, 2006
There’s only one theory that made me go, “Hmmmmm…” and that was the Pentagon one about the missel. The Parking lot cam is what actually got me on that one.
April 10th, 2006
Ok, I just watched it. What’s with the explosions while the WTC”s were collapsing? There is a lot of fishy stuff, but it still doesn’t dismiss the fact of the huge loss of lives.
But I have to admit that this video is hell bent on proving something, and they go a bit overboard.
April 11th, 2006
What’s up with the Sept. 11 posts lately? There seem to be a lot of movies coming out/publicized at the same time (now), and a lot of people writing about it.
What’s to say? It happened, and ofcourse I have an open mind, I don’t know exactly what “it” was. But I was here watching it happen from an office cafeteria window in Soho, and even if the causes were mysterious, the effects were real. People had real emotional reactions to this. Fuck political bullshit - and I mean fuck both sides of it! The only thing that was certain was that everywhere I went in the city that month, people would break down crying on the street, and 20 other people would stop and take care of him/her. That was the only time that people weren’t reacting out of selfish motives.
It is complete and utter bullshit that at least 3 movies are coming out capitalizing on what happened. I see it as the same sort of manipulation that pushed through the PATRIOT Act. People aren’t really all that dumb, let everyone figure out their own feelings for a few years. Fuck!
(sorry JJ)
April 11th, 2006
The Loose Change movie isn’t about conspiracy theories; it’s about evidence. The only reason it’s not on imdb is that it’s an amateur video and I don’t believe imdb lists amateur videos. There is plenty of evidence besides those two movies that something was very off about 9/11. You don’t have to be an engineer to see how the buildings came down, with obvious explosions going off floor by floor.
Video doesn’t lie. Presidents do . . .
April 11th, 2006
In hundred years they think that Lee Harley Oswald survived and became Osama Bin Laden and single handedly organized 9/11.
Can’t you see; resemblance is eerily alike.
Fortunately, they will have the Internet. A source of very reliable information. Especially, all millions of bloggers….
April 11th, 2006
Antickpix:
Yes. That’s all I’m saying. There’s got to be more to the story. And I’m curious.
MacBros:
Excellent point. Yes, they’re trying very hard to refute the current official explanation of events. Sometimes the filmmakers go overboard.
Shirley:
“It is complete and utter bullshit that at least 3 movies are coming out capitalizing on what happened.”
So true. The one thing this movie has going for it is that it’s free on Google Video. I honestly believe the filmmakers aren’t in ot for the money. As far as the other movies are concerned, that’s clearly not the case. They are wide release Hollywood films that simply tell a story. They’re not on a fact-finding mission.
Shelly:
“The Loose Change movie isn’t about conspiracy theories; it’s about evidence.”
I admit there’s a negative stigma attached to the term “conspiracy theory.” But the deal is - sometimes there are conspiracies. When you suggest that there might be a conspiracy surrounding an event, you’re voicing a “conspiracy theory.”
RockyJay:
“A source of very reliable information. Especially, all millions of bloggers” Hahahahaha!!
April 12th, 2006
what do you mean oxymoron? cleveland is lovely.
perhaps you’ve just never been to the proper places… you can email me for a fantastic NEO travel guide
April 18th, 2006
HAVE YOU SEEN THE 9 11 ON TRAILS AND PROVED GUILTY?
pLEASE SEE THE WINGTV
http://www.wingtv.net/911ontrial.doc/911ontrialindex.html
yOU CAN WATCH PART OF TRIAL IF U DO NOT WANT TO SEE IT ALL, JUST SEE:
Archived Witness Testimony
Introduction
Opening Statement
and
Witness 18
Closing Argument
It has no conspircy theory at all, it deal with the subject as science and prove it with math evidence, there is no chance of any conspiracy at all, worth to let yr friend to know .
April 19th, 2006
I just posted a comment but could not see it appearing at all, any gueses?
April 19th, 2006
Hi Sam,
If the comment included more than one link, my spam blocker probably deleted it. The settings are pretty strict.
I’ll keep an eye out for future comments and will allow them if they are relevant.
April 20th, 2006
ok many thanks HAND
April 20th, 2006
See Alex J caught red handed by wingtv :
Main page
http://www.wingtv.net/index.html
The Alternative Media Speaks Out:
Jeff Rense & Alex Jones Censorship
tp://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/censorshipaltmedia.html
in the same page see:
Rense & Alex Jones: Caught Red-Handed
John is caught red handed on censorship, these mortgaged media must be exposed:it is our duty to do so.
I think the Bankers too preparing alternative monarchy, when this system collapse they have like Alex and Dylan of the loose change will accepted by the public. The same game happing in front our noses, the Euro is a fake competitor of Dollar, it belongs to the same group, it is a controlled competitive currency, so no one else comes up with real one.
Just see how the bankers in distress when Iran announced to open an oil bourse, that is real danger to bankers, so they rally behind each other to destroy the coming bourse even its in Euro. Some one might ask if dollar melt away, it will be good for Euro. No sir the Banker will loose and to protect their interest they will do what ever necessary to stop fall of Dollar. Do you know if Dollar goes and we have USA note it will be blessing to the American and the world?
There will be very little tax
The debt will disappear within one year
The deficit will be from the history
So all these are the crime of the Bankers, I wonder when we can stop these crime, 9 11 was a drop in the ocean of the history of THE MONEY MASTER)
W Wilson the USA president said I betrayed my country, can any one ask to home?
April 21st, 2006
Please watch this (less than 5 min) and see what George Bush America stand for after 911?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6782011043386916706&q=George+Bush+Address+Gone+Halarious&pl=true
April 21st, 2006
I’ve seen that clip before, but I forgot how funny it is. Hilarious!
April 22nd, 2006
jj
and diff what Neocon does and what bush says in the clip, any one?
how can we now believe an official statement when they produce Bin Laden Clips, and just after 24 hrs they will confirm its genuinety?
Is there any cridiblity left?
April 23rd, 2006
there is no diff what Neocon does and what bush says in the clip, any one?
how can we now believe an official statement when they produce Bin Laden Clips, and just after 24 hrs they will confirm its genuinety?
Is there any cridiblity left?
Today they put dead Ben Laden on Aljazeera again, watch the space, this new video clips will have some reason, the Neocon loosing the war , they want to lead the event the only way they can do it is by new London Bombing, or someting some where else, but this video is raising alarm, is the date will be 06.06.06 or before?
God save the innocent victimsplease read:
http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/3607.php
this site will tell why it is an inside Job:
http://journals.aol.com/foxxgiavani/REALNEWSPOLITICS/entries/691
April 24th, 2006
Did you ever wonder…?
how the U S government managed to survive in the 121 years before there was an income tax? ….. and what all the income tax you pay is really used for?
what the Constitution means (Article I, sect 8, clause 5) when it says “Congress shall have the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof…”? ….. and yet the government seems to find it necessary to borrow money from the bankers?
why we have no Civil War debt, when all the later wars created “federal debt?” ….. and To whom does the government really owe this soon-to-reach 8 trillion dollars of “federal debt”?
why your parents or grandparents could buy a five-course dinner at a good steak house for less than a buck in 1940, while the same meal would cost you more than $20 today?….. or, even worse, how much that dinner will cost your own kids in 2020?
why the harder you work and save, the more behind you seem to get? ….. especially if your job may be taken over by someone in another country where labor is cheap, so your employer is moving its plant there, and closing its plant here?
why all the new “social” laws, like social security, medicare, head-start, child care, welfare, fair employment, and many more, which all sounded good when they were enacted, all seem to create enormous financial problems for Congress and local governments?….. and why no one in charge seems to know how to solve them?
why almost half of our kids live with only one parent?….. why street gangs ignore the law and openly sell drugs in major cities? ….. why the public schools are struggling to educate our children?….. yet some high school graduates can’t read or do simple math?
in short ….. why so many things seem to be wrong with our country today, despite what we hear on the managed TV news? ….. so that old feeling of insecurity about the future keeps gnawing at you?
April 24th, 2006
just look :sam said,
on April 21st, 2006
Today they put dead Ben Laden on Aljazeera again, watch the space, this new video clips will have some reason, the Neocon loosing the war , they want to lead the event the only way they can do it is by new London Bombing, or someting some where else, but this video is raising alarm, is the date will be 06.06.06 or before?
God save the innocent victimsplease read
Just we heared 3 big explossion gone in Egypt (Sanya Dhahab resort) at least 33 innocent victim died and over 150 injured.
Can any body remeber what I said yester day?
just see this , today is 24. 04.2006.
2+4=6
04+2000= 2+ 4= 6
06= 6
666
this what the every one knows the trick now.
these are the crime carried infront our eyes, and what we as sheep doing about it nothing, untill our turns come?
April 26th, 2006
Carly Sheehan: A Nation Rocked to Sleep
A Film by Peter Dudar and Sally Marr
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11079.htm
2 min video worth watching.
April 26th, 2006
do we know how much the desabled will cost us , any clue?
just look at these picture?
These picture Bush avoid american to see
achievement in Iraq
http://www.voltairenet.org/article137035.html
April 26th, 2006
Thanks for continuing to add comments to this post. I really do appreciate it. Those pictures are incredible. What a sacrifice!
August 14th, 2006
I watched part 1 and part 2 of loose change and i think that they did an excellent job of exposing the 9-11 cover up. i have painful deception and a lot more tapes that come at 9-11 in different ways they all seem too agree tht it was an inside job. right after 9-11 i was on the computer for hours resarching what really happened and i realized then that it was definitely a coverup. Busthe NSA CIA FBI MOUSSAD CFR THE ILLUMANATI and THE MILITARY MAINLY THE AIRFORCE WAS IN THIS THING TOGETHER THE MONARCHY AND THEIR PUNS WORKED THEIR MAGIC TOGETHER TOO PULL THIS OFF. CONGRESS CHOSE TOO LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND SO DID ALL THE OTHER LAW MAKERS AND ENFORCERS. THE RULING CLASS OF AMERICA OILCOMPANY OWNERS BANKSTERS ETC WON’T TIGHTEN THEIR GRIP ON THE PLANET BY SQUEEZING THE LIFE OUT OF ITS INHABITANTS. NOBODY TRUST THIS COUNTRY ANYMORE AND NOBODY BELIEVE IN IT ANYMORE SO AMERICA BELIEFS THAT THEY HAVE TOO CONTINUE TO TAKE WHAT IS NOT THEIRS THATS HOW THEY BECAME A SUPERPOWER. THE WAY THEY THINK IS DUMB TOO US BUT BRILLIANT TO THEM BECAQUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO. AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT. THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER EVERY GOVERNMENT INSTITUTION AND KNOWBODY IN THE WORLD CHALLENGES THEM THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE CHALLENGED. MOST OF THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN DUMBED DOWN BY THE MEDIA ESPECIALLY BLACK AND HISPANIC PEOPLE. THE DUMBEST THING I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING IS HOW CAN THEY PUT BOMBS IN A BUILDING WHEN THEY HAVE SECURITY. THOSE CAN’T THINK IGNORAMOUSIS DON’T REALIZE THAT THEIR IS SOMETHING CALLED SECURITY CLEARANCE. I HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT WERE SECURITY GUARDS IN THE WTC AND THEY TOLD ME THAT WERE BOMBS IN THE BUILDING. ITS PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THE FUEL DID NOT BURN LONG ENOUGH TO WEAKEN THE STEEL. WHAT CAN I SAY OTHER THAN THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE SHEEP THAT FOLLOW THE LYING MALICIOUS SHEPERD CALLED THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
August 15th, 2006
The first post I see here is Nunya’s, saying they hope we don’t “buy into this crap”. I want you guys to know this: The GOP plants people in Democratic/liberal/conspiracy type blogs to comment. When they see a blog that they feel threatens the GOP line, or official story or whatever, they send their messengers out to literally post comments that go against what the prevailing concensus is. They have even admitted doing this. They have thousands of people online doing just this thing on blogs like this. Karl Rove himself used to do it using the name “Thor” on various forums and discussion boards. So when someone shows up on your blog and just says “nah, don’t believe it” and then leaves without explaining themselves or debating, it could easily be a GOP operative on your blog. You can sometimes tell them from the regular people because they just strike and leave.
Mtuwahaki, please email me about your knowledge of bombs in the WTC. I’m a private citizen, a liberal, and I do a podcast that’s political. I’m talking about 9/11 recently and I’d like to know what you know so I can tell other people.
citizenagainstlies @ gmail.com
Anyone else with knowledge like this also, feel free to email me about it.
Also, another good video to watch on this subject is called “911 Eyewitness”. There is also a good podcast on 9/11 that you can subscribe to through iTunes (not mine) called ‘911 News’. It’s very well done.
August 15th, 2006
Shelly,
Nunya’s cool. She’s keeps a private blog, so she doesn’t like to link to it on other websites.
I checked out your site. You have some good stuff going on over there. Keep it up.
Rock on,
JJ
February 19th, 2007
all goverments do this from rome to berlin america was about to become bankrupt oil was the only remady if america fell so would england usualy 7 weeks later motives are everywhe,any court will tell you/ a motive then a crime/ case solved
June 17th, 2008
You’re all a bunch of gullable idiots that will just cling to ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous. Here are a few simple questions for you IDIOTS: 1)if the flight landed safely in Cleveland, what happened to all the people on board? Did their families all decide to go along with the conspiracy? Where is the proof, ANY PROOF, that it landed in Cleveland? I will admit to the entire conspiracy if ANYBODY can prove that ONE PASSENGER survived that flight. JUST ONE.
2)did ANY of you idiots see the VIDEO of the airplane hitting the Pentagon? And what happened to all the passengers on THAT plane? Guess they all just disappeared and are alive somewhere with Elvis, huh? Watch the VIDEO . . . you can see a PLANE hit the Pentagon. We don’t need to bomb ourselves to start a war, morons. Look at how we went to Iraq! We didn’t need a fake attack, we just said “they have weapons of mass destruction” and went in.
3)Unmanned military planes? What happened to the hundreds of people on THOSE planes? Why hasn’t ONE of the passengers come out to expose our gov’t conspiracy? Everyone remains conveniently silent . . . because they’re ALL DEAD you morons!
4)controlled demolition? We capture the collapse of two 110 story buildings, the FIRST TWO to have fallen in the history of man, and we sudden;y all become experts on HOW it is supposed to look, how it is supposed to fall, and to what extent secondary explosions would occur and where.
You all deserve each other.